Link Rating System

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I've been thinking this would be really useful as well, though I understand it could be difficult to implement..

I was looking through the problems section just now, and noticed a lot of complaining about links being deleted.

Taking the youtube 'thumbs up/down' idea a bit further, rather than users being able to immediately delete a link*, why not have something akin to the 'spam' flagging on youtube comments, so after (x) users select delete, it automatically deletes it and sends notification to mods who can review it for banning?
Obviously would need a minimum amount of link view/clicks before being deleted

That way valid links won't be deleted by ..people who want to show how much more awesome they are at inter-webbing (as much) though no doubt it'd be abusable as well.

*Never had the need to delete a link, so can't say if it only requires one person to do it

And off topic, If I may ask, are users banned for abusing link deletion by IP, or just username?

Great thoughts, pureenmity! Thanks for all your wonderful ideas you've been posting around - we really appreciate the well-thought out suggestions as we're always looking for good user input as we update the site.

These are all definitely things we'll consider as we think about updates to link ranking, removal, etc.

As for your question about users banned for link deletion, they may be banned by IP if there is a big issue of removal.

I think it's lame and youtube has recently started doing this. Which IMO is a failure because the old star rating was way more accurate and immediately viewable. The star system worked really well at weeding out the crap vids. But SR doesn't even host vids so whats the point....

I think it's a great idea to remove links after they have been flagged (x) number of times. But I was under the impression that this was already done when users click on "Mark as broken" next to a link, if not then how does it actually work? In my opinion it would be better to combine the two ideas into one solution, using the thumbs up/down to generate ratings and then using the ratings to sort the links and automatically hide/remove the ones with the lowest score.

I do agree that star rating may give a better indication of which links are more popular since it is "immediately viewable", but there is a good reason why youtube replaced it. I am more in favor of the thumbs up/down solution, but the ratings of each link definitely needs to be more visible (e.g. like they do here http://osx.iusethis.com/top).

Now when it comes to implementing such a solution, it's actually quite easy. I understand that there can be issues with spam, but there is no good solution to this problem if there are little or no rules in place. The only way it can be achieved accurately enough is by limiting the rating option to logged in users only. That way you can set up rules and conditions to prevent most, if not all, of these issues and get a fully automated rating and sorting system. I don't really see any reasons to have it available to anonymous users at all.

I agree, there needs to be some sort of rating system for links. Not only does one run into a ton of spam video links, but then there are also legitimate links that just take forever to load.

how is this going?

put the top watched links on the top so we can see them more easily and allow users to rate them

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make good links easier to find.

develop a link checker, to get rid of broken links automatically.

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develop a link checker.

Make it so that you can rate sources so that you can find the best sources to watch the shows on. Make it so that you can rate the sources by different categories and then display them in best order. This would help get rid of bad sources and aide in quickly selecting the best link to us.

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Rating of sources.

I would just ban all those sites with surveys and all that adds. Also ban people who posted those links and of course, theirs ips too. That will learn them lesson. I spent whole day looking for working links of newest American Idol episode and all I saw was "fill survey" or "go to ....". Some people are just weird.

Also, maybe it would be better to do... report link with just one click like broken link. Yeah, it would be harder for staff but better for getting rid of spam, I think.

Ideas to prevent spammers.

Like most Sidereel users - I'm sick of clicking on links only to find a video saying "Go to SomeOtherSite.com to watch this video".

Here are several solutions....

Option 1. When exiting Sidereel to a video hosting site - keep a close-able toolbar at the top of the screen with a thumbs up/down rating system - a link that gets several thumbs down can go to a manual review/or be automatically removed from the listings. This should be able to be done without being logged in.

At the present time reporting a link is too much of an effort - so spammy links stay up longer than they should...

Option 2. Have a rating system in place for uploaders - don't automatically approve listings submitted by people who have less than X amount of thumbs up - once they get a certain amount of thumbs up their uploads automatically get approved.

Option 3. List videos by user-rating - more thumbs up - the higher up they are in the list.

Option 4. Automatically scan outgoing links daily and look for "Removed due to Copyright Violation" or similar to ensure dead links are found quicker....

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Ideas for spam/dead links prevention.

Add a "Working" / "Broken" rating for registered users to vote before it is reviewed by an admin for deletion if truly broken. TVDuck has a decent version of what I am referring to, but they never delete proven broken sites. This would provide a HUGE incentive for non-registered users to register reduce spam sites.

Thanks,
Bosti

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Add a "works"/"Broken" rating for registered users..

I have used sidereeI off and on for awhile now and I love its new look and new organization. The new option to mark shows and seasons as watched really helps me to keep track of where I left off in watching. Also the new reporting system is great. I have run across a few links to sites that are unsafe and many broken links. I hope to see this system used for keeping us safer and to streamline getting to a link that works well. I think the idea Gus had about letting users sort the links so that the best working links are displayed on top would go far in our quest to watch our shows. I have seen that kind of thing used on coupon sites like retailmenot.com. On the left of the coupon it shows a % of how often the coupon has worked for users. On the left of the coupon they give the option to report on whether or not the coupon worked for you. The best coupons with are then moved up and down the list based on where the % of success rates them. A system like this on sidereel would be awesome. I was thinking too about how to stop spammers from removing good links with a % system like this while working to block sites that have proven to be bad and full of spam, virus and malware or whatever. First of all don’t allow users to remove anything. Add yes remove no. With a working link rating system bad links will move down the list while good ones move up. I see no reason for people to use bad links and rate them as good unless they are the spammer. Right there that will tell you which user opinions and ratings can’t be trusted. So then the links being reported as bad are the ones you focus on. Put into place with the user reporting system an alert that lets you employees know to check out sites that are repeatedly reported as bad and possibly delete it or block them. For example let’s say after 100 reports of misconduct on www.watchshowgetavirus.com by multiple users an employee would receive an alert then check out that site. At which point it could be determined that yes this is a bad site that needs to be removed or not and possibly blocked from adding new content to you web site in the future. It would take some work at first to get them all but it might be worth the effort. On a last note I would really like to see a preview section added under each show listed. When I am looking for a new series to start watching and it would be nice to have a few previews for each show maybe also a brief general written description of the show or series. Than it would be easier to find a new show to watch without having to leave the sidereel site to check them out.
Thank you for your time
Wolf43080

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Kudos and Suggestions.

Suggestion: Link Delete option removed.

I noticed a couple of trigger happy spammer is deleting links on Sidereel, especially on True Blood page, and its very obvious keeping their CPA lead- site on. Lets just say there is only one spammer who is doing this, but everyone else, for revenge and due to anonymonity, starts deleting other links as well since there is now someone to blame.

I would suggest that only those who has submitted their link can delete and edit their own links.

As for the normal users, they would only see a Thumbs Up and Down to suggest that a certain link is in Good Health. If, for example a link has reached an 80% Down rate, then they will see a Report Broken Link option. Also an option to sort video links (without refreshing the page) either alphabetically (site name), Health status, and the default Date submitted.

Also, limit the caption title of the links and strip down html tags, I've tested its accepting iframes tag which breaks the page.

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Suggestion: Link Delete option removed..

i found that if you click the last megavideo link in the list, 99% of the time it will work. I dont know if they are entered in order from oldest to newest or if it is a coincidence but it works for me

I tried to watch a programme tonight on here and all 30 of the links redirected me to a bogus website..... it is now becoming almost impossible to watch anything on here without wading through large amounts of rubbish links and at the same time becoming very frustrated. I usually give up and go to another website, which is a shame because I have used sidereel for a long time.
Why can't you have a good and bad button beside each link so that users can report a bad link and others can see whether it's worth watching..... having to fill out a form or send an e-mail seems ridiculous, time consuming and quite frankly not worth the effort.
I hope that something can be done about this before you start to lose all your traffic

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Good and bad buttons to avoid fake links.

You need to put a "This Link Works" or a thumbs up apart from "report link" and "broken link" then you need to list he working links at the top

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just like tubeplus.me.

they should be a thumb up or down to tell us that the link is broken

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why there no thumb up or down to tell us that the link is broken.

Often I find myself watching new shows and that always comes with watching the first seasons. unfortunately allot of the link don't work, and of course always click the broken link button. but when I find a link that works I cannot give any feedback that the link is working. my idea on this is that you can click on a "working link" button to help other users find a working link faster.

tom

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A working link button.